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Published on November 1, 2006 By Sean Conners aka SConn1 In US Domestic
Now, maybe I have seen it all in politics. Next Tuesday may prove that statement wrong, but for now, I think I have.

Two days ago, Senator John Kerry was stumping for the already defeated California democratic gubenatorial candidate. Kerry went into a bunch of one-liners about President Bush. As usual, John Kerry is no Henny Youngman or even Carrot Top. In his monologue, he made a reference to people who don't pay attention and study in school "get stuck in Iraq."

This obscure line would have drifted into the political graveyard except for one thing. The butt of the joke, the one being called "stupid", didn't get it. The one being called stupid was the President.

Now, I'm not calling the President stupid here, but Kerry's line was seemingly validated when President Bush missed the point just like they've missed so many points over the last 6 years.

Bush took the line as an insult to the troops, as if we still have a draft. As if kids who flunk out of school have to go into the military.

Someone needs to remind the President that no draft exists, and failed students more often than not go to work, not the military.

But the lack of realization didn't stop the Campaigner in Chief and his punditry from going on the attack. They boldly went into the land of feet looking for mouths to inhabit , charging that Kerry owed the troops an apology.

No he doesn't. Mr President, you and your pundits owe Mr Kerry an apology for once again being so eager to trash him, that the facts are discarded.

But unlike the lying Swift Boat attacks, this time, Mr Kerry was not gonna take it or wait for a never coming overdue apology. In a response to the White House's delusional charges, Mr Kerry said this...

"I apologize to no one for my criticism of the president and of his broken policy."

Kerry said the comment in question was "a botched joke about the president and the president's people, not about the troops ... and they know that's what I was talking about."


And he didn't stop there...

That, Kerry said, was meant as a reference to Bush, not troops. Kerry said it is the president who owes U.S. soldiers an apology — for "a Katrina foreign policy" that misled the country into war in Iraq, failed to adequately study and plan for the aftermath, has not properly equipped troops and has expanded the terrorist threat.

"I'm sick and tired of a bunch of despicable Republicans who will not debate real policy, who won't take responsibility for their own mistakes, standing up and trying to make other people the butt of those mistakes," he said. "It disgusts me that a bunch of these Republican hacks who've never worn the uniform of our country are willing to lie about those who did."


It's about time that John Kerry got his spine back. Maybe George Bush needs to get Karl Rove in his office so he can have his brain back. That is, if Mr Kerry was correct.


Comments (Page 2)
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on Nov 01, 2006
it's "not" just us that feel that way about Kerry!


i could care less how you feel about kerry. and the fact that ya'll hate kerry and make it so obvious kind of takes away any credibility in going after him.

if ya wanna go after him for calling bush stupid, be my guest. but the spin into changing what he said is nonsense.
on Nov 01, 2006
You are so liberal, and there isn't an ounce of independant party in you, that if being a liberal democrat was being shiny, you would be blinding.


ok,,,now attack the messenger.

dolt, i'm a libertarian. i have the card to prove it.

It seems like every other time the man opens his mouth, he insults the soldiers,



no he doesn't. show me other insulting quotes he has made. and don't go back to vietnam. you said "every other time" so the quotes should be recent.
on Nov 01, 2006

guy,,,i didn't call baker a liar 1st, he came here and did that. if ya wanna criticize that, go after the one who started it.


I'm sorry but you sure did call bakerstreet a liar first:

probably not, baker will try to scream his lie over and over until someone believes him, or till next tuesday.


Bakerstreet did nothing of the sort to you personally! He said "Kerry" was the liar, not you!


He's lying, and its pretty obvious. Kerry was returning to the same, sad song the Dems chant during a time of war;


Notice he said "he's" lying, NOT you're lying!
on Nov 01, 2006
Notice he said "he's" lying, NOT you're lying!


and i took that as him calling me a liar.

by your logic, if bush can interpret kerry's words any way he feels, so should i. i took the comment as meaning i was lying.

and based on your arguements about kerry, you are supposed to accept my interpretation.
on Nov 01, 2006
Hanoijohn.


or maybe they'll just resort to insults


that is a title Hanoijohn earned when he called me a rapist, a baby killer, someone that tortures and beheads people.
on Nov 01, 2006
that is a title Hanoijohn earned when he called me a rapist, a baby killer, someone that tortures and beheads people


and how does that qualify you to objectively evaluate anything he says?
on Nov 01, 2006
"dolt, i'm a libertarian. i have the card to prove it. "


lol, yeah, the col kept up the argument that he is a moderate republican for a long time too. Eventually it'll just become so ludicrous not even you will be able to swallow it.

Anyway, you guys won't address the fact that this supposed "joke" is the same argument we've heard from the Dems over and over. Every election they start trying to provoke fear in anyone under 25, saying that you're in danger of being drafted or that you'll be starved into joining the military. They did it in 2004, they're doing it now, and they'll keep right on doing it because it works on paranoid people.

"probably not, baker will try to scream his lie over and over until someone believes him, or till next tuesday."


If I called you a liar before you said that about me, I don't see it up there. Regardless, you'll not need to worry about me 'lying' on your blogs anymore. I've reached the point with you that I reached with the Col. I've no wish to aid you by bumping your junk, and I'm not interested in offering you the opportunity to spread it onto mine.
on Nov 01, 2006
and I'm not interested in offering you the opportunity to spread it onto mine.

don't let the door hit ya in the ass...
on Nov 01, 2006
lol, yeah, the col kept up the argument that he is a moderate republican for a long time too. Eventually it'll just become so ludicrous not even you will be able to swallow it.

that's not calling me a liar, again?
on Nov 01, 2006
All politicians are liars.

Case closed


Now there is something I certainly can't disagree with.
on Nov 01, 2006
(Citizen)Sean Connery, a.k.a. SConn1November 1, 2006 12:15:32


that is a title Hanoijohn earned when he called me a rapist, a baby killer, someone that tortures and beheads people


and how does that qualify you to objectively evaluate anything he says?


I have the same qualification to disseminate as you do.. it's called freedom of expression.
now what will you say?
Why can't you just admit Kerry is a joke?
I had no problem trashing Foley.
Nor do I have a problem admitting anything the right does that is patently wrong.
This is a trait that the left lacks, the ability to say "I was wrong" or "he is wrong"
But I will admit it is amusing watching people lie to protect Kerry and the Democrats in general. Lie away Sean and lose what tiny credibility you have left.
on Nov 01, 2006
Why can't you just admit Kerry is a joke


this isn't about john kerry. this is about his comments being distorted and lied about.

I had no problem trashing Foley.


did anyone defend him?

(Citizen)Sean Connery


is changing my name to james bond an effective insult?

have the same qualification to disseminate as you do.. it's called freedom of expression.



express all ya want. i challenged credibility on this subject, not your ability to exercize your 1st ammendment rights.


on Nov 01, 2006
like I said twist, turn, run, the truth is Kerry messed up.

run run fast as you can, this will be my last comment on any of your blogs, you will not cannot admit anything wrong about your beloved left.


on Nov 01, 2006
This obscure line would have drifted into the political graveyard except for one thing. The butt of the joke, the one being called "stupid", didn't get it. The one being called stupid was the President.


This unobscure line's lasting power has nothing to do with the President "not getting it."

1. The way it came out of Kerry's mouth makes it hard to say it was a joke about the President at all, on its own merit (regardless of what his prepared transcript would have had him say).

2. If a political opponent of yours commits a faux paus on such scale, you don't let it slide. You beat it to death.


What Kerry said is easily construed as an insult to soldiers in Iraq, regardless of his intent, or what he intended to say. Of course his political opponents are going to milk it for all its worth.

It is not that the President did not "get it." It is that Kerry fouled up, made a fool of himself, and made the situation worse by refusing to apologize. If he would have come out with, "I misspoke, and I apologize sincerely for the message that seemed to come across. Here is what I meant..."

The Republican political machine would be "stupid" not to leap on the opportunity to turn as much opinion against Kerry as possible.
on Nov 01, 2006
The Republican political machine would be "stupid" not to leap on the opportunity to turn as much opinion against Kerry as possible


i disagree,,,they are showing how shameless they are in exploiting something that they twisted themselves and have tossed all facts out the window for potential political gain.

and i don't know why the line is unobscure. he was campaigning for a candidate NO ONE was paying any mind to. there was no major press coverage of the event.
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