Sean, your comment to MM was a bit longer, why don't you put the whole bit about the compliment in? As you have it now it looks sarcastic.

The response I read last night it did not come across as sarcastic, you seem to have shortened it? Infact you seem to have shortened the whole reply you made on MM's thread?

The reply in whole set the record straight for you, why don't you put the whole response up here and lock the thread. That way the record is set straight and ends there.

Sean, your comment to MM was a bit longer, why don't you put the whole bit about the compliment in? As you have it now it looks sarcastic. The response I read last night it did not come across as sarcastic, you seem to have shortened it? Infact you seem to have shortened the whole reply you made on MM's thread? The reply in whole set the record straight for you, why don't you put the whole response up here and lock the thread. That way the record is set straight and ends there.

that is exactly what i did, and MM flipped out, deleted my comment (the long one that explained everything, put it in context and sourced all the articles mentioned) and blacklisted me.

i could care less if he wants to black list me, but i'm not gonna let him get away with blatantly lying about me.

i'm gonna redo that post on here when i get the chance. it takes a little bit to accurately trace everything.

ok,,,here we go,,,again....

moderateman wrote a trash hate piece about me after him and bakerstreet were proven wrong on several fronts. he finally "lost it" when it became apparant that all their charges about me really being a democrat instead of being the libertarian that i am were shot down. i offered to provide my voter id and birth certificate as proof. they didn't want that and chose to instead use moderateman's blog to write a misleading piece of trash about me.

the following is a "redo" of the post i resonded with on his blog. in my response i explain the context, show where i was wrong and where he was. i source all the articles mentioned so someone can actually follow p and fact check. if you want to see what he wrote,,,go here...Link



this won't be worded the exact same way, but you should get the idea...

the 1st point i made was pointing out that after we had our spat (which most of the derrogatory lines are taken from, out of context) and i extended (he accepted) a proverbial olive branch, as soon as i had an opportunity, i made sure to say something nice about him...

(from dr guy's article "the truth about the vietnam war" ) i am responding to him mentioning his service from 65-69 in reply #2

(Citizen)Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1October 19, 2006 12:10:41Reply #35SALUTE to moderateman for his brave service to our country!

i then pointed out that where he took my derrogatory comments from, an article entitiled 'REAL SIMPLE QUESTION"

Link

in that article, him and his cronies start with me and harrass me when i give a similiar answer as one of his friends....

i say...i have no idea if he did or didn't.

he responds with how old are you? 18? 19?

i ask him to stop, as he knows i am 39, have a wife of 11 years, 2 children and 1 on the way.

stop this nonsense...for your own sake.

i also point out that MM does indeed know who i am, and how old i am, as i answered the question less than 24 hours before he began this article. and this article was only started because the same charges he claimed here were the same ones he was trying to pollute my post, about the mark foley / dennis hastert / gop scandal with...

Citizen)Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1October 16, 2006 20:27:23Reply #9from moderateman's own article,,,on this very same subject...that he was actively participating in today...Edit • Reply • Quote (Citizen)Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1October 16, 2006 18:18:28Reply #18fraudman's attempt at this in his other slander post>>>>Just keep your head in the sand and when you grow up and finally become a success you too will switch and become a republican. my reply>>>>LMFAO!!!


yes, a t this point i call him fraudman. after being repeatedly insulted on multiple posts and having anything i say to defend myself ignored and the lies and distortions repeated...

he then continues insulting me...

then the one that most level headed {opps what was I thinking} {this leaves you out}

he continues,,,using backhanded insults even after i have clearly stated who i am (and all this can be checked at myspace.com/sconn1, one of my music sites that includes a link to my wife's site, which shows me and her and our children)

You really must stop this curlish behavior... for not only your sake, but for the sake of any children you might create,

continues to insist i am lying and really a democrat...set an example for the other members of your party that have hi-jacked it.

Return to correct thinking, admit that you have little or no real idea of how politics work.

Admit you are just parroting the words and stances of leftwing loons

used to be just like you, leftwing loon, then I grew up

never play with my lessers!It's is much like playing with food
may I ask under what name , what city or state as I would like to look this up.

of course, his crony, baker,,,gives essentially the same answer i did, but gets complimented vs my harrassment...

Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Tuesday, October 17, 2006No idea. He might have given her the Kennedy golf club treatment. Or he might have just given her the regular Kennedy treatment and accidentally killed her. He might have just driven into the water drunk and left her for dead.... or he might have wrecked, then wandered in a dazed state to a party in a state of total saintly innocence.Believe what you want, we'll never know. A fair and just answer. leaving conclusions to those that read all about it.

i get called a liar...only a liar could see a simple question as an attack,,, you are slipping BOY!

i get called stupid, again even my name and me being honest is unfairly questioned...you seem to think using your real name {if it is your real name} is some kind of badge of manhood, most of us here see it as a badge of stupidity. i should mention here that even the site leader, brad, has gone to using his real name posting after his jousting with Rush Limbaugh.

the insults continue whe n all i am asking for is for him to stop trying to say that i am lyying about my own existence....However I will give you a chance to say you are an sorry excuse for a male, {will not call you man cause you ain't} tuck your penis between your legs, pretend you are a girl, knowing I will not fight with a girl and just leave.

then he steps WAYYYYYYYYYYY over the line and calls my mother a whore....

this alone shows how a child you are mr. pushing 40, I have jeans older than you idiot child.I am old enough to be your daddy, and who know I just might be. BOY!

at least there he admits my age...but the damage is done. i know full well who my daddy is. he's the husband of over 40 years to my mother. i grew up in a very loving and stable 2 parent household. MM suggests that he was doin my mom tho....i ask him to apologize...and yeah, i get nastly about it. if he had the balls to say anything like that to my face, i would whoop his ass. (who wouldn't defend their mother from a jerk like this?)

he continues to play insult games and somehow feebly reverse spin what i said, instead of having ANY HONOR WHATSOEVER at this point...wow, where does it say I called your sainted mom a whore? I said I just might be your daddy and you extrapulate that into your momma being a whore. FOR SHAME!! CALLING your momma a whore.

we go back and forth,,,but in the end, i extend a proverbial olive branch...and he accepts this...anyway,,,i believe all these issues have been settled...and i sincerely thank you for taking a minute and giving me a vote on myspace yesterday. perhaps now that you know that i'm not some left wing wussy who's gonna back down to being bullied or personally insulted, we can have a more constructive dialog. take care moderateman (notice no name callin there) and i'll look forward to debating the issues and seeking common ground with you in the future:)have a great day!

this all takes place on October 19th! 13 days before he writes his trash piece (name this person win a prize) about me where he selectively takes just my insults, most of which happen after he insults me (an he did on my blog and other posts as well, but i don't want to make this too long with all those tangents)

over the next two weeks (after the 19th) he and baker and ted and the other cronies try to somehow prove i am not a libertarian (the party i have held memebership for over 10 years) and am really a democrat plant sent to somehow change their minds. (can ya say tin foil hat boys and girls?). one day, they decide that i am wrong for defending john kerry against all the pundits who are mischarachterizing his words. i make my case,,,they insult me over and over...i eventually lead them (and boy it was easy) off the subject of kerry and back to them questioning my party affiliation. they still can't do anything to show that their conspiracy theory holds any water whatsoever. so i get insulted some more by him, baker, ted, etc....

then, he writes this piece (guess this person's name and win a prize) AS IF i am some dispiciple bad guy picking on him.

along the way i made every opportunity to find common ground, be as courteous as i was being treated, sometimes more to these low lifes. then i get painted as this. then, when i show an example of me trying to "reach out" he is shows just how dishonorable he is and how skewed he sees everything by claiming the reprint of my obvious compliment was somehow ripping on his service, which i still salute despite his showing he has lost any honor or sense of honesty the military may have attempted to instill.

he blacklists me, which is fine, i could really care less. but then he goes on in not 1, but 2 reply boxes and repeats lies he already knows are false.

until i hear some apologies, i stand by every word i wrote here. feel free to censor me as that's your perrogative. but the repeated insutls over years, without any "taking it back" or gentlemanly "shaking hands" when the scrum is over and then going sooooo low as to bring my mother into it is unnacceptable. and it will not go unanswered.

it also needs to be mentioned that not only did he blacklist me, he deleted the orig response i gave to his charges. i showed the context of his comments and sourced them. he decided to lie and make his post look like it was all one sided by deleting my posts. but he screwed up. baker responds in post #25 (i think) to words that are no longer up on the replies. it looks pretty silly to see him responding to words that weren't said according to moderateman and his censoring ways.

anyone who argues or debates with me knows i give as good as i get. i make no apologies for that, but i have, many times in the past, like anyone, said things that were over the line. when asked, i have apologized for it. also, anyone who talks with me knows atthe end of the scrum, i almost always try to mend fences and "virtually shake hands" usually talking about "maybe we can find common ground elsewhere." on posts where we do find common ground, i cheerfully poiint it out. that is usually ignored, or another crony steps in and begins the insults again.

and i'm the bad guy, right?








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whip,,,he may be your online chum, but he is a liar. plain and simple. maybe you and his friends can talk some sense in to him

ok,,,here we go,,,again....

moderateman wrote a trash hate piece about me after him and bakerstreet were proven wrong on several fronts. he finally "lost it" when it became apparant that all their charges about me really being a democrat instead of being the libertarian that i am were shot down. i offered to provide my voter id and birth certificate as proof. they didn't want that and chose to instead use moderateman's blog to write a misleading piece of trash about me.

the following is a "redo" of the post i resonded with on his blog. in my response i explain the context, show where i was wrong and where he was. i source all the articles mentioned so someone can actually follow p and fact check. if you want to see what he wrote,,,go here...Link



this won't be worded the exact same way, but you should get the idea...

the 1st point i made was pointing out that after we had our spat (which most of the derrogatory lines are taken from, out of context) and i extended (he accepted) a proverbial olive branch, as soon as i had an opportunity, i made sure to say something nice about him...

(from dr guy's article "the truth about the vietnam war" ) i am responding to him mentioning his service from 65-69 in reply #2

(Citizen)Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1October 19, 2006 12:10:41Reply #35
SALUTE to moderateman for his brave service to our country! [/B]

i then pointed out that where he took my derrogatory comments from, an article entitiled 'REAL SIMPLE QUESTION"

Link

in that article, him and his cronies start with me and harrass me when i give a similiar answer as one of his friends....

i say...i have no idea if he did or didn't.

he responds with how old are you? 18? 19?

i ask him to stop, as he knows i am 39, have a wife of 11 years, 2 children and 1 on the way.

stop this nonsense...for your own sake.

i also point out that MM does indeed know who i am, and how old i am, as i answered the question less than 24 hours before he began this article. and this article was only started because the same charges he claimed here were the same ones he was trying to pollute my post, about the mark foley / dennis hastert / gop scandal with...

Citizen)Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1October 16, 2006 20:27:23Reply #9
from moderateman's own article,,,on this very same subject...that he was actively participating in today...

Edit • Reply • Quote (Citizen)Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1October 16, 2006 18:18:28Reply #18

fraudman's attempt at this in his other slander post>>>>Just keep your head in the sand and when you grow up and finally become a success you too will switch and become a republican.
my reply>>>>LMFAO!!!


yes, a t this point i call him fraudman. after being repeatedly insulted on multiple posts and having anything i say to defend myself ignored and the lies and distortions repeated...

he then continues insulting me...

then the one that most level headed {opps what was I thinking} {this leaves you out}

he continues,,,using backhanded insults even after i have clearly stated who i am (and all this can be checked at myspace.com/sconn1, one of my music sites that includes a link to my wife's site, which shows me and her and our children)

You really must stop this curlish behavior... for not only your sake, but for the sake of any children you might create,

continues to insist i am lying and really a democrat...set an example for the other members of your party that have hi-jacked it.

Return to correct thinking, admit that you have little or no real idea of how politics work.

Admit you are just parroting the words and stances of leftwing loons

used to be just like you, leftwing loon, then I grew up

never play with my lessers!

It's is much like playing with food
may I ask under what name , what city or state as I would like to look this up.

of course, his crony, baker,,,gives essentially the same answer i did, but gets complimented vs my harrassment...

Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
No idea. He might have given her the Kennedy golf club treatment. Or he might have just given her the regular Kennedy treatment and accidentally killed her. He might have just driven into the water drunk and left her for dead.

... or he might have wrecked, then wandered in a dazed state to a party in a state of total saintly innocence.

Believe what you want, we'll never know.


A fair and just answer. leaving conclusions to those that read all about it.

i get called a liar...only a liar could see a simple question as an attack,,, you are slipping BOY!

i get called stupid, again even my name and me being honest is unfairly questioned...you seem to think using your real name {if it is your real name} is some kind of badge of manhood, most of us here see it as a badge of stupidity. i should mention here that even the site leader, brad, has gone to using his real name posting after his jousting with Rush Limbaugh.

the insults continue whe n all i am asking for is for him to stop trying to say that i am lyying about my own existence....However I will give you a chance to say you are an sorry excuse for a male, {will not call you man cause you ain't} tuck your penis between your legs, pretend you are a girl, knowing I will not fight with a girl and just leave.

then he steps WAYYYYYYYYYYY over the line and calls my mother a whore....

this alone shows how a child you are mr. pushing 40, I have jeans older than you idiot child.

I am old enough to be your daddy, and who know I just might be. BOY!

at least there he admits my age...but the damage is done. i know full well who my daddy is. he's the husband of over 40 years to my mother. i grew up in a very loving and stable 2 parent household. MM suggests that he was doin my mom tho....i ask him to apologize...and yeah, i get nastly about it. if he had the balls to say anything like that to my face, i would whoop his ass. (who wouldn't defend their mother from a jerk like this?)

he continues to play insult games and somehow feebly reverse spin what i said, instead of having ANY HONOR WHATSOEVER at this point...wow, where does it say I called your sainted mom a whore? I said I just might be your daddy and you extrapulate that into your momma being a whore. FOR SHAME!! CALLING your momma a whore.

we go back and forth,,,but in the end, i extend a proverbial olive branch...and he accepts this...[B]anyway,,,i believe all these issues have been settled...and i sincerely thank you for taking a minute and giving me a vote on myspace yesterday. perhaps now that you know that i'm not some left wing wussy who's gonna back down to being bullied or personally insulted, we can have a more constructive dialog.

take care moderateman (notice no name callin there) and i'll look forward to debating the issues and seeking common ground with you in the future:)

have a great day!

this all takes place on October 19th! 13 days before he writes his trash piece (name this person win a prize) about me where he selectively takes just my insults, most of which happen after he insults me (an he did on my blog and other posts as well, but i don't want to make this too long with all those tangents)

over the next two weeks (after the 19th) he and baker and ted and the other cronies try to somehow prove i am not a libertarian (the party i have held memebership for over 10 years) and am really a democrat plant sent to somehow change their minds. (can ya say tin foil hat boys and girls?). one day, they decide that i am wrong for defending john kerry against all the pundits who are mischarachterizing his words. i make my case,,,they insult me over and over...i eventually lead them (and boy it was easy) off the subject of kerry and back to them questioning my party affiliation. they still can't do anything to show that their conspiracy theory holds any water whatsoever. so i get insulted some more by him, baker, ted, etc....

then, he writes this piece (guess this person's name and win a prize) AS IF i am some dispiciple bad guy picking on him.

along the way i made every opportunity to find common ground, be as courteous as i was being treated, sometimes more to these low lifes. then i get painted as this. then, when i show an example of me trying to "reach out" he is shows just how dishonorable he is and how skewed he sees everything by claiming the reprint of my obvious compliment was somehow ripping on his service, which i still salute despite his showing he has lost any honor or sense of honesty the military may have attempted to instill.

he blacklists me, which is fine, i could really care less. but then he goes on in not 1, but 2 reply boxes and repeats lies he already knows are false.

until i hear some apologies, i stand by every word i wrote here. feel free to censor me as that's your perrogative. but the repeated insutls over years, without any "taking it back" or gentlemanly "shaking hands" when the scrum is over and then going sooooo low as to bring my mother into it is unnacceptable. and it will not go unanswered.

anyone who argues or debates with me knows i give as good as i get. i make no apologies for that, but i have, many times in the past, like anyone, said things that were over the line. when asked, i have apologized for it. also, anyone who talks with me knows atthe end of the scrum, i almost always try to mend fences and "virtually shake hands" usually talking about "maybe we can find common ground elsewhere." on posts where we do find common ground, i cheerfully poiint it out. that is usually ignored, or another crony steps in and begins the insults again.

and i'm the bad guy, right?

I'd advise against locking the thread

thanks for the advice whip but we've discussed this (you and i) and you know that i don't censor anyone. never have. won't be startin now.

now MM is claiming that i did indeed insult him over on his piece of lying trash..., but all evidence proves i didn't . in fact, i was commending him.

again, here 's the article where i gave him kudos...

WWW Link

here's where MM remains in his hate-filled, delusional, melted down state...

Reply By: jennifer1Posted: Friday, November 03, 2006
MM - why did you delete Seans response to you? I read it through and it seemed fair and balanced.

I read his compliment to you about your service to your country, I did not find it insulting, I read it as just that a compliment and a glowing one at that. I do not see how you found the compliment insulting?
his response...the article he linked to was an article about liars that say they were in vietnam but were not. To denigrate my service is an insult. NOtice I left all his other replies.


i invite anyone to examine the FACTS.

NOtice I left all his other replies.

he took out the one similiar to the "redo" above which categorically showed his lies. big deal leaving the other comments.

still looks silly seeing baker reply to words that you censored and no longer exist, lol

.

...oops button stuck and i triple posted i think...sorry

thanks for the advice whip but we've discussed this (you and i) and you know that i don't censor anyone. never have. won't be startin now

I was only giving advice as given to my by Cacto. You don't want to do it fine with me, I never took the advice and it all carried on for 11/12 or more days.

It's a nasty practice, not one I engage in, and one that's wisely avoided in the name of fairness.

You blacklisted me on you JU gossip 2 thread and I inturn black listed you, you then took me off the blacklisting and moaned about the fact I had black listed you. LW?

i reposted the hacked article in case anyone came lookin and found it had been deleted

and i must finally modify my no censorshp policy,,,mm, baker,,,congrats, because you or someone affiliated with you has infringed upon my free speech rights, i am forced to blacklist both of you. it will remain until i rec. an apology from moderateman and baker for blatantly and purposefully lying about me.

i ahve a feeling the phanom refferals about baby rapes in africa was another attempt to slander me.

have a nice day gentlemen:)

ahve a feeling the phanom refferals about baby rapes in africa was another attempt to slander me.

no I did an article on that, I just found it weird that when I opened your thread the referal came onto your thread, then when I posted that fact they disappeared again. That was nothing to do with them.

no I did an article on that, I just found it weird that when I opened your thread the referal came onto your thread, then when I posted that fact they disappeared again. That was nothing to do with them.

fair enough