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Published on October 3, 2006 By Sean Conners aka SConn1 In Current Events
Late night comedians had a field day when Pat Stevens, the Senator in charge of the internet in congress, commented that the internet was a "series of tubes" showing how little he knew about the technology he was overseeing. Of course we all remember George Bush senior needing bar codes to be explained to him in a supermarket, exposing just how little shopping the ex pres actually ever did himself. Michael Dukakis was a walking joke after putting on a helmet and riding around in a tank as if he actually knew what he was doing. When Karl Rove was distracted, Geoge W Bush showed off his bad decision making ability by choosing his personal lawyer as the next Supreme Court justice.

We all laughed at those and other images of our leaders being exposed as less than competent in a situation. That all changed last friday when congressman Mark Foley (R) of Florida was exposed thru a series of emails and instant messages as possibly being an active pedophile. Of course, most know by now, Foley was the congressional leader in charge of protecting our children from the likes of pedophiles. It was literally the fox guarding the henhouse.

Those of us outside the beltway are now learning that Foley's antics and "overfriendliness", a nice term either the republican leadership or the media have invented to gloss over the fact that a predator was put in charge of guarding kids, were well known inside the halls. it apparantly was well known that Foley was gay for years, in fact, there is strong evidence that his orientation was the cause of his sudden withdrawal from a Senate campaign in which Foley had raised over a million dollars to run. But his being gay is not the issue for most of us. Him being a pedophile is.

And are we to believe all this "overfriendliness" and illicit emails / messages in which Foley instructs an underage page to masturbate for him and tells him how much he wants to have sex with him are the extent of his activities? How often does it happen that any kind of "addict" (and i'm not talking about alchoholism unless there's a lot of booze in a page's cum) of this sort merely just does a few related activities but doesn't actually do anything "bad" concerning that decision. How many alchoholics, except for Sam Malone on Cheers, hang out with boozers all the time and don't take a drink? How many gambing addicts "casually" watch a game without placing a wager? And how many of those guys caught on Dateline's "To Catch a Predator" claim that they just came to talk?

I have a feeling there is more to this story, and unfortunately, that "more" will probably include reports of sex with underage boys. It's only specualtion, but from my experience, "addicts", in this case, an addiction to young boys, don't just hang around their prey for some good conversation. And Foley's "hanging around" with the pages was something that occured over his 12 year congressional career. Anyone who knows about hunting knows that you go where the animals are that you are hunting for, and probably wouldn't stay long in an area that had no game. Foley has been "buddying up" to pages for 12 years.

Is the old addage true that "where there is smoke, there is fire?" When it comes to children and predators, as a parent of 2 (and one on the way), I prefer not to take any chances. I wish the house leaders would have taken the same approach if they had any knowledge whatsoever. What is disturbing are reports that this matter, when brought to some light last year, was refferred to an "election" comittee run by the GOP and not a bi-partisan ethics comittee as it should have been. It is beyond political if anyone wanted to squash this story because they feared losing power.

Beyond that, big questions remain about exactly who knew what, and when. the house of representatives leadership is now on the hot seat over allegations that they knew at least of Foley's improper behavior with the pages for some time. I still don't know if that's true or not. I hope it is not. An investigation has been launched, and hopefully that investigation will be complete and fair. If house leaders did know of this, they have breached their trust with the pages and the American people. I don't know if their misdeeds warrant resignation from their seats, but surely resignation from their positions as leaders in the house should be revoked if not voluntarily given. It is essential that the GOP not do anything that even appears as tho they are covering anything up at this point or protecting leaders to save public face. Such a move could backfire hard.

THE most important thing here is the protection of the pages, just as all children need to be protected by our society as a whole. But secondly, it is vital that we find out exactly what has happened here, and if it was just some "improper emails" as White House spokesman Tony Snow would like us to believe. I have a feeling there's more. This is not a partisan or an election issue, it is an issue of principle.

It is sometimes funny when our leaders are exposed for not knowing what is going on. Pat Stevens is probably still trying to figure out how Foley sent all those messages thru those tubes. But nothing about this is funny, in fact , it's downright repugnant.




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on Oct 05, 2006
this just in,,,the Boy Scouts have tried to cover up the fact that Foley was a leader in their organization and has been involved since his own youth.

read...


Tuesday, October 3, 2006
Boy Scouts Scrub Mark Foley from their Web Site
Posted by Mark at 10:25 pm
The Boy Scouts of America, Inc. perform a Congressional Survey so they can tout the number of legislators who have been active in the Scouting program at one time or another. This is the current fact sheet for the 109th Congress: http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-571.html

But if we take a look at Google’s Cache for the same web site, we see a different story under the Florida delegation — namely there’s one name in the cache that is no longer on their web site:

Florida
Rep. Michael Bilirakis (R), S&L
Rep. Allen Boyd Jr. (D), S
Rep. Jim Davis (D), S
Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R), S
Rep. Mark Foley (R), S&L
Rep. John Mica (R), S
Rep. E. Clay Shaw Jr. (R), S&L
Rep. Cliff Stearns (R), S
Rep. David Weldon (R), S
Rep. Robert I. Wexler (D), S
Rep. C. W. Bill Young (R), S

The “S&L” next to Foley’s name means that he was both a scout as a youth (S) and also served as an adult leader (L) in the Boy Scouts.

So why would the Boy Scouts of America, Inc. be in such a rush to scrub his name from their web site? In fact, they were in such a rush, they didn’t even bother to update the totals at the top of the page. (Notice that the tally is off by one…)

UPDATE:
Here are a couple of screen captures of the cached version:

Top of the page showing Google’s headers
Florida delegation and surrounding parts of the main body
on Oct 05, 2006
Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1 If you ever have an original thought, you should keep it and treasure it, you are nothing but another "talkinghead" and not a very good one at that. I understand that real THINKING hurts the brain cells of Democrats, but maybe a motrin might help.
on Oct 05, 2006
this comes someone called spindoctor, lmfao!

if ya had a clue, you would know i'm not a democrat...enjoy your kool-aid
on Oct 05, 2006
He isn't a democrat because his family has supported republicans....don't any of you know that already??!!??

Anyways....I find it...well, stupidly funny, to jump on Bakerstreet, when he DID admit he was wrong...You on the other hand....you continue to spout off your (non)democrat BS talking points....

Baker has never said that the guy is a great guy because of it...he has said, though, that the ppl that made it ok to do it, should also be held accountable. I guess if you were a doctor, if someone was developing heart disease, you would want to cut out the heart, instead of changing what was causing it.....typical for a (non)democrat like yourself.

You are like the 2nd coming of another (non)democrat we all used to love so much here.....
on Oct 06, 2006
He isn't a democrat because his family has supported republicans



i also held elected office as a republican and at one time was registered as one. i still hold many conservative values.



thanks for taking me out of context



and i ripped baker because his reasoning is disingenuous and cowardly. instead of leaving his words and updating it, he chose to bury his mistakes so no one could ever see it. that is covering up, then in the "apology" reframing what he said in a more palatable manner so he could easily flip flop into his new position.



i've said some wrong things here, but i have never erased an article to hide my actions or words. in fact there's a nice lil war with me and brad from a few years ago that i at least, have left intact. i said some stupid things there,,,but i don't try to hide from it. you do (45 articles written, 9 articles or so remain) i put my money where my mouth is pal, don't forget that. unlike most, i don't hide behind a keyboard and an alias. when i'm wrong, i apologize, ask lil whip, i gave her a heartfelt apology over something offensive i said to her.



You are like the 2nd coming of another (non)democrat we all used to love so much here.....



dude, i've been on here for over 2 1/2 years....2nd coming? where have you been? oh yeah, erasing your own words. your profile says you have written 45 articles i believe, yet only a handful are on your site. and comparing me to someone else when you obviously have no clue who or what i am is irresponsible.


but it's a free country, so feel free to take your lil cheap shots that you would never have the nerve to do to without your lil made up online "persona." but then again, you do live in the world of a fake and phoney "sport" and d&d fantasies"

on a more human note, congrats on the new baby. i truly mean that. my wife and i are expecting our 3rd. it is truly a blessing:)
on Oct 06, 2006
"and i ripped baker because his reasoning is disingenuous and cowardly. instead of leaving his words and updating it, he chose to bury his mistakes so no one could ever see it. that is covering up, then in the "apology" reframing what he said in a more palatable manner so he could easily flip flop into his new position."


As opposed to 'lying for justice' types that leave their falsehoods up to be hit by search engines eternally, with maybe a small comment way down at the bottom correcting it if they get caught. I don't remove stupid things I've said, there's lots of them around here, but when I make a characterization and later find it to be false, I don't leave it hanging for the person to be tarred with forever.

You can't turn what you are doing around and call it integrity. You keep right on using concepts like "pedophile", "child abuse", "underaged", etc., when you know that the pages in question were above the age of consent. It's just adolescent 'google bomb' propaganda mentality. I'll happily put my blog on the subject alongside yours and let other people decide, because what they think counts. Your cut-and-paste opinions are meaningless to me.
on Oct 06, 2006
whatever baker,,,ya keep comin back...keep talkin pal...
on Oct 06, 2006
haha....man, you get real defensive when someone calls you a democrat....

Anyways....as to my articles I have deleted. None of them were anything really about my beliefs, or my political stance. I know that most of them (if not all of them) that have been deleted were for a dice & card game I have that I have played for the better part of 20 yrs.

And I live in a fantasy world? Yeah, ok....just because I spend some time playing pc games....or a dice & card game, makes me live in a fantasy world....whatever, dude.

EDIT: On the other hand. I think you are just a very unhappy, bitter man. For some reason, you seem to hate anything that does not line up with your views, and you take it out on anyone who does not agree with you. I have read your words to Baker, Brad, and others....you have nothing good or nice to say to or about any of them. And now, you take pot shots at me, because i play pc games? haha....too funny.

And, the reason I keep bringing up the fact that you are not a democrat, is because you let us all know that with everything you say. But, what do I know, I am just a kid who lives in a fantasy world....haha...too funny. Believe me, I feel the sting of reality, and that is why I get into pc games, and my dice & card game...to escape this hell-hole that is called reality. Thanks to both democrats AND republicans, America is not the country that it should be. But again, what do I know....my views don't seem to count anymore.
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