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a look at the pragmatic side of doing something...
Published on February 25, 2007 By Sean Conners aka SConn1 In Consumer Issues
For years now, an increasing majority of scientists have gotten onboard with the concept that global warming is a very real phenomenon, and yes, we are causing it. Still, there has been a increasingly small minority that shuns these views and insists that everything is A-O.K. and we should just continue on as usual.

Earlier this month, while the world was focused on the circus that was the death of Anna Nicole Smith, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released the 1st of 3 phases of it's long study. The report was authored by about 600 scientists from over 40 different countries. It was reviewed by over 600 others and governments. then, before being accepted, the entire report was reviewed, line by line by over 113 different countries last January in Paris.

The report contended that, in short, that they were over 90% sure of their findings. Was this 100%? No, it wasn't. But the evidence is strong enough and backed widely enough that they were pretty damn sure. In any civil court, this would be more than enough evidence to win the case. It indeed would be a "perponderence of the evidence."

Still some, let's say (generously) that about 10% of the scientific community doesn't buy this. Those "10%ers" certainly are entitled to have their views heard, reviewed and analyzed. To some, this is enough to puth the kabash on any moves or innovations to lower our output of greenhouse gasses or otherwise improve our overall environment. that unfortunately, is not the case. In this case, doing nothing is certainly worse than doing something.

For those of you itching to get into some "gotcha" debate on who said what about global warming or want to go out and google things till ya find just the right obscure study to somehow "disprove" 90% of the scientific community please save your breath and fingers. This isn't about trying to hyperbolically "prove" one position or the other. For the purposes of this article, I freely acknowledge that there is dissent on this issue, albeit a small one. And those folks are more than entitled to that stand.

What they are not entitled to, however, is trying to squelch anyone else doing anything about the matter. George Will recently contended that on this issue, doing nothing is the answer. He contends, that since we don't know with 100% accuracy every single cause and effect of climate change (which he even acknowledges as a real phenomenon) that we should just sit back and see what evolves. His only course of (strawman) action, is reviving he Kyoto protocols and forcing a vote on the Senate. George wants to use that a s a way to lambaste any Senator (56 still serve who voted against Kyoto a decade ago) who would dare vote for it now. Mr Will is simply playing politics on an issue that even he admits is very real. His solution is to politicize it and use it against individuals in only political ways.

But climate change isn't about politics. It's not about conservative politics, and it's not about liberal politics. It's about improving our quality of life. That is something everyone can agree is a good thing.

I am going to assume that the person reading this is in agreement with George Will and the others who suggest that doing nothing is better than doing something on climate change because no one can prove the future to them 100%. Allow me to attempt to appeal to you on another level, a pragmatic one.

If we do nothing, nothing happens. Nothing is innovated, nothing is developed. No new technology comes forth. We simply continue to look for untapped reserves orf oil and other fossil fuels that we can exploit until they are all gone, which is inevitable. We continue to only pay lip service to anything innovative, and not really give it the funding muscle it really needs to move at a pace that would matter. Inevitably, in 100 years or so, our grandchildren's grandchildren will need to find the solutions themselves, even if the earth isn't burnt to a crisp. This, while still paying for our wars and mistakes.

But if we do something, many things can happen. We will, undoubtedly, improve our conditions for living on earth. Air will be cleaner, water will be less polluted and our grandchildren's children will have 100 years of innovation, science and research on which to build. Also, with the real funding that only big organizations and the fed can fund, we have the possibility of ushering in a new age of innovations for ourselves. When President Kennedy called on America to reach the moon before the end of the 1960's, he inspired a nation to build, innovate and progress in many areas that weren't part of the space program directly. We can do that today. The space program has produced over 30,000 inventions and innovations that have benefitted most of us at one time or another. from new kinds of insulation to advances in computer technology. In fact, the only reason we can effectively study climate change, is because of the NASA programs that lead to various satellites and technologies being developed.

And whether or not you would have supported President Kennedy's goal in 1961 is irrelevant. Whether or not we needed to go the moon before 1970 didn't and doesn't matter one bit. In fact, most people thought Kennedy was out of his mind in 1960. Some of those same people might still think the space program is a waste, despite enjoying the countlessbenefits that have trickled into our daily lives.

Investing in research and development of technologies that will help improve our environment will also surely reduce, and hopefully eventually eliminate our dependence on foreign oil. And I know of no one who thinks that is not a good thing.

I remember growing up in Pittsburgh, Pa. When I was very young, Pittsburgh was known as "The Smokey City." It was a town where you could wake up and put on a white shirt, and by the end of the day, your shirt would no longer be white. And for those who don't remember that era of Pittsburgh, let me assure you, that it wasn't hyperbole. The air was so bad that it could literally change the color of your clothes. Thru the 1960's and into the 70's, just about everyone resisted any change. they cried how bad it would be for the economy, and that Pittsburgh just couldn't survive unless it was buried under a cloud of dirt and soot.

then came a man named Richard Caligiuri. The good people of Pittsburgh elected him mayor and he took an innitiative. He literally lead Pittsburgh thru a "renissance." By the time that both the Pirates were winning the World Series and the Steelers were still winning Superbowls, Pittsburgh was reintroduced to the world as a clean city looking towards the bright future instead of being mired in a dingy past.

Steelmills still remained, tho due to increased Japanese competition, mostly spurred by US Steel, based out of Pittsburgh, who built the new modern and efficient plants for the Japanese while neglecting our own older and less efficient plants here at home. Finally tho, US Steel and other steelmakers, revamped the plants that were still viable and many of them operate today in a much cleaner and efficient fashion. US Steel eventually beame "USX" as it diversified beyond steelmaking. Pittsburgh became a center of innovation and developed technologies in fields that the old steelmakers would have never thought possible just a decade before that.

Not everything was or is totally smooth in Pittsburgh. Some lost jobs and were forced to relocate or retrain. But overall, most Pittsburghers would take the city rebuilt by Caliguiri and Company over the dingy, smoke filled town that would have eventually died without the new innovations and direction. It is time for America to untertake such a "rennisance" like the people of Pittsburgh did in the 1970's. Pittsburgh now has a future, and is no longer a "dying city" as it was described back in the day.

Whether or not you personally buy into the concept that climate change is real and we are causing it simply does not matter in the end. It is clear that doing nothing, while costing nothing, will produce nothing. But doing something can only create a better world for all of us in the long run.

Comments
on Feb 26, 2007
I think global climate change is real, is happening---in that it is cyclical. The earth's temperature is always in motion and right now it's going up a few hundreds of a degree Celcius. Before that it was trending downward.

I don't think we are "causing" global warming or global cooling. It's over-the-top media hype just as years ago, was so called "acid rain" and after that the " ozone hole".

You say that we should do something. What would YOU have us DO that we aren't doing already? Fly less? Drive less? Demand cutbacks from "greedy" corporations? Pay more tax money to the sciences and universities? How about a law that forces the Hollywood types to fly "coach" instead of their own private jets?

I'm from the old days when caring for the earth was called conservationism. Genesis tells us to be good stewards of the earth not worship it under the name of environmentalism.
on Feb 26, 2007
actually lula...there is a growing alliance between environmentalists and conservative christians and catholics, like yourself...

from a recent article...

The emergence of this religious environmental movement presents progressives with an intriguing opportunity to build a bridge over what has previously been a forbidding cultural chasm on matters of faith and morality. The White House, meanwhile, is in no position to stop that from happening. It may be famous for embracing religious voters, but it is almost as well-known for its anti-environmental biases. That posture is testing religious environmentalists' patience.

Last January, for example, the National Religious Partnership for the Environment, an alliance of Catholic, Protestant, evangelical, and Jewish organizations, sternly warned Republicans that there are limits to the support the GOP can expect from the religious community. The group decried the administration's Clear Skies initiative, its petro-centric energy policies, and its recalcitrance on the issue of global climate change -- specifically, its refusal to support mandatory action to curtail greenhouse gas emissions. In explicitly political terms, the group declared "There was no mandate, no majority, or no 'values' message in this past election for the president or Congress to roll back and oppose programs that care for God's creation." (Emphasis is theirs.)

....If progressives steer clear of environmental extremism, they may be able to find common ground with the emerging green gospel movement. Some progressives may also be able to frame their environmental convictions in terms of their faith. That comes naturally to Lieberman, for example, so perhaps it is no surprise that religious environmentalists are supporting the McCain-Lieberman greenhouse gas bill.


Yet before progressives can reach out to the burgeoning religious environmental movement, they must recognize two important things: First, religious environmentalists are wary of activists whose reverence for nature appears to them to be too close to idolatry -- worshiping trees instead of God. ("As we embrace our responsibility to care for God's Earth, we reaffirm the important truth that we worship only the Creator and not the creation," wrote the NAE.) Second, because religious Environmentalism takes its cues from the Bible, which says that God put man into the Garden of Eden "to work it and take care of it," the religious environmental concept is one of conscientious stewardship. Religious environmentalists support sustainable use of the Earth's resources, not the hands-off absolutism of radical groups that oppose almost any form of growth, like Earth First!
whole article...
Link

on Feb 26, 2007
Thanks for the link. I've heard of the National Religious Partnership for the Environment and remember as far back as 1993 wondering who the Catholic members are only to find out that they were all liberal or dissident Catholics. At the time I think they were trying to address the issues of poverty and the environment and working with the UN. I'm very sceptical of the group becasue I think the doom and gloom tenets of radical environmentalism (or what I call the green religion) will end up dominating and become part of public policy. If this happens then it's no longer, In the beginning, God created man and he is the crown jewel. The new world view will be more like man has become a plague upon himself and upon the Earth. The cause of environmental integrity must occupy the highest position...nature is the new god.


I note that the link was dated 2005 and since then, the Rev. Ted Haggard has stepped down as head of the Evangelicals.

Would you be for drilling in the ANWR?
on Feb 26, 2007

So what, specifically do you suggest is done?

It would take dozens of Kyoto accords to even put a dent into what China and India are going to do in terms of CO2 production.

on Feb 27, 2007
Would you be for drilling in the ANWR?


i'm really not interested in getting off on that tangent debate, but my long term position has been no.

So what, specifically do you suggest is done?
It would take dozens of Kyoto accords to even put a dent into what China and India are going to do in terms of CO2 production.


well brad, i'm not the expert here, so i really don't have any "5 point plans" or anything. but neither are the folks who latch on to the occasional obscure study or latest paid ad from exxon/mobil (disguised as research) on the subject. but if we were on a jury in a civil court (i don't think this is really a criminal matter, lol) i would expect any reasonable juror to determine that overall, the pro climate change crowd has made it's case with a perponderance (sp?) of the evidence.

and i believe we owe it to ourselves to really begin the initiatives to make ourselves energy independent with renewable sources that don't choke our atmosphere and melt our icecaps. like i said in the article, taking such initiatives, i believe will only lead to new innovations and good things. i think much of what the IPCC has suggested are good ideas. some will cost money, but i believe it is more of an investment than "pissin it away."



on Feb 27, 2007
Draginol,

I've just read a piece by Mark Alexander and he said that "there is no scientifically established correlation between global warming trends and acclelration of the greenhouse effect due to human production of CO2---only broad speculation".
on Feb 27, 2007
I've just read a piece by Mark Alexander


lula,,,did you read my article or are you just here to blindly attack?

For those of you itching to get into some "gotcha" debate on who said what about global warming or want to go out and google things till ya find just the right obscure study to somehow "disprove" 90% of the scientific community please save your breath and fingers. This isn't about trying to hyperbolically "prove" one position or the other. For the purposes of this article, I freely acknowledge that there is dissent on this issue, albeit a small one. And those folks are more than entitled to that stand.


on Feb 27, 2007
lula...maybe you are confused, but coming in here and just "poo-pooing" every person who actually wants to do something about our environment as "all liberal or dissident Catholics" is a bunch of crap. i personally know plenty of conservative environmentalists. then you want to cite mark alexander, an obscure hack that represents no one, who is offering nothing more than a hate filled, coded propoganda message. and that was specifically what i respectfully asked people not to do here.

get with the program or ya will be removed lula...thank you:)
on Feb 27, 2007
SEAN CONNORS POSTS: get with the program or ya will be removed lula...thank you:)


Sean, evidently, by this ultimatum, you don't want me in this discussion unless I agree with everything you say. Too bad, because give and take dialogue and discussion on such a vast and complex topic as climate change is a way we learn from one another. But you know it all, I can tell. So carry on without me. Bye.
on Feb 27, 2007
Sean, evidently, by this ultimatum, you don't want me in this discussion unless I agree with everything you say.


not true lula. in my article, i specifically noted that the purpose here was not to get into a "is global warming real or not" tit for tat, let's all run out and google until we find just the right "gotcha " article debate. it's silly and non productive. you disrespectfully ignored that request and insisted on attempting to hijack my article with your agenda.

what i was and am willing to discuss is whether we should step up our efforts to find renewable fuels, reduce pollution and CO2 emmissions and so forth, or is doing nothing in that vein the better option? should we just sit back and wait and see what happens?

don't even try to pull the "you just want everyone to agree with ou" crap...it holds no water as my request in the article was specific and clear, as was your hijack attempt.