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libertarian polls strong after debate, which pisses off Sean Hannity and his cronies...
Published on May 16, 2007 By Sean Conners aka SConn1 In Republican
Last night, Texas congressman Ron Paul was a lone anti war voice on the stage. Paul defended his truly conservative position against the war, as the other candidates tried to twist his position for applause. After the debate, as it was obvious that Paul's message did get thru despite Sean Hannity and GOP lackey Michael Steele lobbying for Paul being banned from future debates as the congressman was actually winning Fox's own post debate poll with a 30% share.

By the time Paul was interviewed, Hannity was so upset with Paul's strong showing that he wouldn't let Paul answer any of his questions, cutting him off and filibustering neoconservative rhetoric as he shouted over the softer spoken libertarian. Of course, Paul was a gentleman, and he knew his message did get thru, at least in part, to the most right wing audience in all of major media despite his critics attempts to silence him. At the end of Hannity's fillibustering, Paul challenged Hannity to a 1 on 1 debate on the issue, a challenge that Hannity conveniently ignored.

At the end of the day, the poll, which had Paul leading for most of the night, ended up with Paul finishing right behind the best financed candidate in the race, Mitt Romney. Fox's "you decide" poll results ended up like this...

Romney -----29%
Paul -----------25%
Rudy G.-------19%
Huckabee-----8%
Hunter----------5%
McCain---------4%
Tancredo------3%
Brownback----1%
Gilmore--------0%
Thompson----0%

Also making strong showings were conservative "2nd tier" candidates Duncan Hunter and Mike Huckabee who drove home their messages to attempt woo the crowd in the audience and at home. And from Fox's results, it seems some were impressed.

Most of the night was about 10 guys trying to "outconservative" each other. And as the candidates threw barbs at each other, accusing each other of not being "Ronald Reagan" enough, like them. In fact , Reagan's name was invoked several times throughout the night, as current GOP President, George Bush was largely ignored. Except by John McCain, who suffered for it in the post debate poll.

The best part of the debate was Fox's handling of it. Which was outstanding for the most part. The pace was great, and the format was effective in getting the candidates to engage with each other much better than Chris Matthews and MSNBC managed to a couple weeks ago. The only problem I had with their format was the allowance of applause, which is usually shunned in these types of debates. But apparantly Fox wanted some "applause lines" to have some actual applause behind them for whatever future purpose they have.

But outside of that indescretion, the debate was highly entertaining and much more informative than their previous "meet and greet."

And a big chunk of the credit goes to Chris Wallace. The Fox anchor has been much maligned, rightly or wrongly, since his "sandbag" of former President Bill Clinton last year before the mid-term electons. But last night, Wallace asked good questions and didn't allow the debators to dodge his questions with pre-memorized speeches that didn't actually answer questions.

After candidates would begin to dodge a question and begin to make a stump speech, Wallace would back them up and make them "actually answer the question." Wallace even granted each candidate more time to actually answer his questions. It was refreshing to see a little tighter control of the debate which made the candidates actually step up to the plate instead of offering non relevant bumper sticker slogans. Except of course, when they wanted to attack Paul for his Iraq position. Then it was ok.

It will be interesting to see who gets a "bump" or a "lag" in the upcoming polls as we head into summer. But I wouldn't expect anyone to drop out of the race regardless of poll numbers this early. After all, the debates don't really cost much to participate in, so all the candidates can hang in there till August, when the Iowa straw poll will shift monies and cause some thinning of the herd going into the fall. Of course, in a wide open Presidential race, anything can happen, as Fox learned last night.

Comments
on May 16, 2007

I woke up to this numerical surprise, I thought Ron Paul looked very bad with his stance on how 9/11 happened.

The applause after Giuliani took Paul to task about that was thunderous and I believe a nail in the coffin of Paul no matter what the poll last night showed.

on May 16, 2007
The applause after Giuliani took Paul to task about that was thunderous and I believe a nail in the coffin of Paul no matter what the poll last night showed


maybe it showed that there are many more out there on the right who unlike the "invite only" audience Fox had, don't believe in this war ...and it has nothing to do with being a "leftie." and despite everyone trying to shout him down, his message got out instead of the twisted one the cronies wanted.

i thought paul stumbled big in the last debate on crisis management, but he did well last night. the poll, along with hannity and steele's lust to shout him down, ban him from debates or whatever tact they must take to silence his voice.

on May 16, 2007
Ron Paul's response to the debate last night...

May 16, 2007
Press Release
Why Hasn’t Rudy Giuliani Read the 9-11 Commission Report?


May 16, 2007

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

ARLINGTON, VA – During the "First in the South" GOP debate in South Carolina last night, one thing was made clear: Rudy Giuliani does not understand how to keep America safe.

When Congressman Ron Paul, who has long served on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, explained how 50 years of American interventionism in the Middle East has helped compromise our national security, Giuliani interrupted saying he had "never heard anything so absurd." This statement is particularly troubling coming from the former mayor who tries to cast himself as a security expert, since Dr. Paul's point comes directly from the bi-partisan 9-11 Commission Report.

"Rudy Giuliani has tip-toed around the issues of abortion, guns and marriage. The only issue he has left is security, and he doesn't even get that right," said campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "It is clear from his interruption that former Mayor Giuliani has not read the 9-11 Commission Report and has no clue on how to keep America safe."

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Posted on May 16, 2007 at 02:34 PM
on May 16, 2007

Ron Paul is a kook.

His position basically was that bad karma caused 9/11.

It was sickening.  If I met that man in person, I'd punch him in the nose and say "Don't mind me, that was just blow back for the things you've done in your life."

on May 16, 2007
Ron Paul is a kook.


His position basically was that bad karma caused 9/11.


i disagree,,,thank you for your comments:)
on May 16, 2007
Ron Paul should be the front runner, but his backing of innane conspiracy theories completely undermines his credibility.
on May 16, 2007
but his backing of innane conspiracy theories completely undermines his credibility.


he's not toting conspiracy theories. but the neocon spin machine is trying to paint him as that. i 've been watchin him get misquoted and selectively quoted all day long. he scared the GOP base last night..."they couldn't handle the truth" to paraphrase nicholson.