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white house staffers should testify, and the american people have the right to demand it.
Published on March 21, 2007 By Sean Conners aka SConn1 In Current Events
In 2001, Congress rubber stamped the Patriot Act with the blessing of the vast majority of American people. But after the "bumpersticker" and "wear it on your sleeve" brand of patriotism wore off for some, they began to question the constitutional ramifications and loss of civil liberties it would cause our great nation. Of course, in the style that we all have become accustomed to, the White House and it's puntitry immediately smeared anyone who dared question them.

Questions of potential abuse were brushed aside and the questioners ridiculed. People like US Attorney Kevin Ryan defended the administration with statements like "We've taken age-old investigative techniques, techniques that have been around and have been approved by the courts and have been used by prosecutors in other areas and simply transitioned them into the areas of domestic and international terrorism as it affects us, post-September 11th," Ryan says.

The FBI touted similar lines...Mark Mershon, the FBI's special agent-in charge for San Francisco, said, "It is a shame that some communities see the PATRIOT Act as... some alarming behemoth that's going to trample the constitutional rights of Americans. That's simply not the case."

Well, well, well...here we stand in 2007. And it turns out, those who questioned did so for good reason.

Recent revalations have showed administration officials actually purposefully taking advantage of the "loophole" that allowed them to subvert the normal process. Emails show them knowing full well their purposes have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism or national security and are simply using this power "cause they can."

The FBI has recently admitted to abusing our personal privacy freedoms by using national security letters and other letters improperly and illegally to obtain personal information from US corporations. The inspector general's recent report showed just how bad the situation is just "at the tip of the iceberg."

Now the President is atempting to block any meaningful and as importantly, public disclosure of how his administration has been operating behind their "cloak of secrecy."

I surely hope the democrats (of which i am not one) and republicans (of which i am not one either) will continue their insistance and force the White House staffers to testify in open session and under oath. I surely hope they do not accept the "Nixonian" lines from Watergate lawyer Fred Fielding. Nixon tried to stop Congress from having his staff testify and the Bush administration is faithfully following in their predecessors footsteps using some of the very players that tried, and failed in the early 70's.

The whole stance of "if white house staff testify, they can't give honest advice" is absolute B*LLSHIT!!! If that were the case, that essentially says that anyone who works for any administration is above the law. That they do not answer to their employers, the American people. Sorry, but they do. Dozens of Clinton staffers testified in the 90's in open session and under oath. As did scores of staffers in administrations for decades did.

There is absolutely NO national security issues at stake in the US attorney case. No claims can be made in that arena. And even if some of that did get "brushed upon," I am fine with any of that being in closed session, but absolutely still under oath. And it does seem clear that Senators were lied to by the Attorney General, who has yet to explain those lies. And the last time I checked, it is a crime to lie to Congress. And even if by some technicallity it is not, as their employer, I demand to know what went on.

In Arkansas, a loyal repubican US Attorney was unfairly replaced by a Rove crony with almost no courtroom experience. How does that serve my country better? As their employer, I demand to know.

In San Diego, a prosecutor who was expanding her already successful investigation of corruption by Bush loyalist Randall "Duke" Cunningham was abruptly fired for performance reasons. The White House later tried to defend the firing pointing to "immigration" and a lack of any cases on the subject. In her actual performance review, however, it was shown that her vigilance on immigration issues was outstanding, devoting up to 50% of her staff and resources to cases on the issue.

Other attorneys, like David Iglasius, were unfairly charged with not going after "voter fraud" cases. But after looking at the actual cases, one sees that the chance of convictions were virtually nil in the cases. And I guess the White House doesn't realize that some of us know that a voter fraud conviction (or many of them) is a bnig feather in a cap for any US attorney, especially one who may run for office in the future. In other words, it was in Iglasius interest, career wise, to get any voter fraud conviction he could. But losing cases would be bad. Imagine the opposition commercials lambasting his screwing up of trials that let "scammers go free." Iglasius's case is compounded by the facts that he was called on and reportedly pressured in unprecedented calls from Senator Dominicci and at least one New Mexico house member. As their employer, I demand to know the answers.

In Washington State, the removal of that US Attorney and the political improprieties are obvious as well. And in the rest of the cases, as with the former mentioned ones, we need to know what went on and if the US Department Of Justice has become a political wing of the administration and not the independent body that is only concerned with justice that the Constitution intended and as their employer, I demand.

Hopefully , Senator Leahey will stand by his words from last night when he said, "I intend to bring the attorney general up here. I am requesting several other people to come up here, certainly Mr. Sampson, Ms. Miers, I assume eventually Karl Rove. If they don’t come, then I’ll seek to subpoena them up here, because the story changes almost every time we pick up the newspaper. […]What I want to find out is what happened, why we’ve been given different stories. And I want those answers, not in an informal briefing; I want those answers in public, in sworn testimony, under oath before my committee. As chairman, that’s what I insist."

And as your employer Mr Leahey, I demand it.









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on Mar 23, 2007
All it proves is that any president who holds onto members of the previous administration (especially when the party has changed) is setting themselves up for betrayal.


these were all republicans who were fired. betrayal? how paranoid are you?

and are you telling me that replacing iglasius, who had an outstanding career as a us attorney, and was rated as "excellent"... with a guy who's karl rove's buddy, yet has almost zero experience, esp in litigating, was a better choice? or was it done to plant a rove operative in bill clinton's home state? when the department of justice is no longer with the priority of justice and becomes a political arm of the executive branch to squash the opposition and prop themselves up, it is a crime, several probably.

on Mar 23, 2007
Admit it Sean, in your eyes this president has no administrative rights whatsoever. Fortunately for the country, the US Constitution disagrees.
on Mar 23, 2007
Fortunately for the country, the US Constitution disagrees.


show me in the CONSTITUTON, where the words "executive privelege" exist.

you can't show anything that says that i say they have no administrative rights whatsoever. your problem, ted, is that you always think that i am a democrat. i'm not, and i am not defending them "per se"...i am defending the rule of law just as some democrats did when clinton was resisting open hearings in the lewinski affair.

Thick, greenish-yellow, and malodorous.


yeah whip...feel free to rip on pelosi. i don't blindly defend her by any means. the only problem is, she doesn't run the committee that has authorized the subpeonas. in fact, she's not even a member of the body that initially authorized them. that would be SENATOR pat leahy. and even the former republican head of the committee, arlen spector has noted that the administrations position is not acceptable. and the white house immediately dismissed any compromises he proposed.

talk about "attacking the messenger" and in this case, she isn't even the actual messenger, yet she still gets attacked by the right. how revealing...about the only thing transparent from the right during bush's tenure has been their motives of hating and smearing anyone who opposes their precious neoconservative administration.

i believe in transparent government. regardless of who is in charge.
on Mar 23, 2007
show me in the CONSTITUTON, where the words "executive privelege" exist.
While you are right that the term "executive privelege" isn't in the US Constitution, there is something somewhere around Article 2, Section 2, Paragraph 2 in the US Constitution that says something suspiciously like:

"...and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments." http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html

So you see, the Constitution does enumerate the hiring and firing of "all other officers established by law". The law established for U.S. Attorneys is "United States Attorneys are appointed by, and serve at the discretion of, the President of the United States, with advice and consent of the United States Senate." http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/

Now, one could take "advice and consent of the United States Senate to mean that the President needs to get approval for the firing of Cabinet employees, but so far that has never been a requirement of any president... ever.

So Sean, my real problem is that I'm right in this and Pelosi and her little henchmen have no Constitutional or legal leg to stand on in their little war against the President.

your problem, ted, is that you always think that i am a democrat. i'm not, and i am not defending them "per se"...i am defending the rule of law just as some democrats did when clinton was resisting open hearings in the lewinski affair.
No, actually I don't consider you a defend-at-all-costs democrat. In fact you have pointed out many times in your blog that you aren't a democrat at all. However, you are defending them even when the rule of law doesn't back their side of the argument.

Also there is a huge difference between what Pelosi is trying to do here and the Clinton/Lewinski case. In the case of Clinton/Lewinski, there was evidence that federal laws had been violated (sexual harrassment laws to be specific). It turned out that Prs. Clinton wasn't actually in violation of these laws, since Lewinski was a willing participant. So, while no law was broken (yet) there was enough evidence to warrant an investigation.

In the trumped up, bull crap, bold faced lie that is this current "scandal", there is no evidence that any laws were broken. There is only evidence that Prs. Bush and/or AG Gonzales simply exercised their authority under law... and that an advisor to the president (Rove) dared to do such a dastardly act as... {Gasp} Advise the President.

Unless you can come up with examples of why I'm wrong... ;~D

on Mar 24, 2007
Just a quick observation of irony here. Isn't it kind of funny that Americans demand to know what's in the Emails and Memos of government because we "are their employer" yet we are outraged if our own employers peek at our emails written on their computers. ;~D
on Mar 24, 2007
Just a quick observation of irony here. Isn't it kind of funny that Americans demand to know what's in the Emails and Memos of government because we "are their employer" yet we are outraged if our own employers peek at our emails written on their computers. ;~D


in a way, yes it is. but on the other hand, i believe in a transparent government. in other words, it's a condition of employment, or should be, in my view. and companies i have worked for say upfront that company email is company property etc,,,

Unless you can come up with examples of why I'm wrong... ;~D


well i already have. there is evidence that attorneys were fired because of where they were going with certain cases, like with lam. there is obstruction of justice, which i outlined above. i'm not gonna sit here and repeat myself and be held to an impossible standard. in addition, there is evidence, in fact we pretty much know that at least some of the attorney's were unjustly fired, and it is illegal for an employer to lie about why they were fired. in fact, emails have already revealed that one of the attorneys didn't even get reviewed, and that was lied about. of course no one has "proven anything" here, that's why ya have hearings and investigations. you want everyone to prove their case here before anyone speaks. the fact is, many see smoke, you may not, but many do...

and the staffers don't have to be themselves guilty of anything to be relevant. witnesses testify too, not just people being accused of crimes. i'd like to know who authorized and initially came up with the idea of abusing and misusing the patriot act to subvert the constitution in a situation that was hardly an emergency or had a damn thing to do with terrorism.

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