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Published on November 1, 2006 By Sean Conners aka SConn1 In US Domestic
Now, maybe I have seen it all in politics. Next Tuesday may prove that statement wrong, but for now, I think I have.

Two days ago, Senator John Kerry was stumping for the already defeated California democratic gubenatorial candidate. Kerry went into a bunch of one-liners about President Bush. As usual, John Kerry is no Henny Youngman or even Carrot Top. In his monologue, he made a reference to people who don't pay attention and study in school "get stuck in Iraq."

This obscure line would have drifted into the political graveyard except for one thing. The butt of the joke, the one being called "stupid", didn't get it. The one being called stupid was the President.

Now, I'm not calling the President stupid here, but Kerry's line was seemingly validated when President Bush missed the point just like they've missed so many points over the last 6 years.

Bush took the line as an insult to the troops, as if we still have a draft. As if kids who flunk out of school have to go into the military.

Someone needs to remind the President that no draft exists, and failed students more often than not go to work, not the military.

But the lack of realization didn't stop the Campaigner in Chief and his punditry from going on the attack. They boldly went into the land of feet looking for mouths to inhabit , charging that Kerry owed the troops an apology.

No he doesn't. Mr President, you and your pundits owe Mr Kerry an apology for once again being so eager to trash him, that the facts are discarded.

But unlike the lying Swift Boat attacks, this time, Mr Kerry was not gonna take it or wait for a never coming overdue apology. In a response to the White House's delusional charges, Mr Kerry said this...

"I apologize to no one for my criticism of the president and of his broken policy."

Kerry said the comment in question was "a botched joke about the president and the president's people, not about the troops ... and they know that's what I was talking about."


And he didn't stop there...

That, Kerry said, was meant as a reference to Bush, not troops. Kerry said it is the president who owes U.S. soldiers an apology — for "a Katrina foreign policy" that misled the country into war in Iraq, failed to adequately study and plan for the aftermath, has not properly equipped troops and has expanded the terrorist threat.

"I'm sick and tired of a bunch of despicable Republicans who will not debate real policy, who won't take responsibility for their own mistakes, standing up and trying to make other people the butt of those mistakes," he said. "It disgusts me that a bunch of these Republican hacks who've never worn the uniform of our country are willing to lie about those who did."


It's about time that John Kerry got his spine back. Maybe George Bush needs to get Karl Rove in his office so he can have his brain back. That is, if Mr Kerry was correct.


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on Nov 01, 2006
He's lying, and its pretty obvious. Kerry was returning to the same, sad song the Dems chant during a time of war; that the poor and uneducated are used as cannon fodder. The problem is, they have to insult the current troops to do it.

So, it isn't just the President. Kerry is filth, and even his own party is edging away from him on this one. It's sweet how folks like you are coming to bat for him, but if you think at this point you can convince anyone that you are a moderate Republican you're nuts; you're being more 'dem' than most dems on this one.
on Nov 01, 2006
He's lying, and its pretty obvious

no he isn't, and that's pretty obvious.
on Nov 01, 2006
Odd then that so many on both sides of the aisle don't see it. Is McCain too stupid to get it? Is Harold Ford? Are the Dems who've canceled his speaking engagements?

Maybe you are forgetting that this argument is really made all the time. Maybe you are forgetting that this election hinges on rural America. This isn't the first time a Dem has claimed that the rich send the poor and uneducated to fight for them. Charlie "draft the rich" Rangel makes it all the time.

Kerry just made the same argument in the hopes of appealing to the poor rural folk who are losing their kids in disproportionate numbers, but he just did it in an ineloquent, spiteful way. He can't hide it by calling it a joke now. We've heard this "joke" too many times before.
on Nov 01, 2006
Baker:

Did you read the transcript? Have you seen the videos?

After doing so, can you really tell me that you don't think that the "joke" was about the President, and not the troops?
on Nov 01, 2006
Yes, I have seen the video, and no, I don't think it was about the President. It was just more fearmongering like in the 2004 election when Dems wouldn't shut up about a draft. This time, though, he stuck his neck out an inch too far.

I don't think for a moment he believed he was insulting the troops. He thought he was being a champion of the poor and ignorant like Dems always present themselves. Their party is the poster child of offering "charity" in the form of insult and then pretending surprise when offense is taken.

No, this is what they do to rural people, and this is what they do to poor urban people. They present themselves as champions of people 'who can't help themselves', never realizing the built-in insult.
on Nov 01, 2006
He can't hide it by calling it a joke now.

he's not hiding anything...read the speech, it was in a series of jokes about the president.

Is McCain too stupid to get it?

i like mccain, and anyone who reads me knows that. but after him swearing that no waterboarding is going on under the new war commissions act, then cheney coming out and openly admitting it, i am starting to wonder bout him and his intellectual capacity. i do think mccain is a very good man. but here he is wrong and if he isn't as gullible as he appears again here, i bet he will admit that long before the white house ever does. not till after the election, but eventually.

as far as ford goes..i haven't seen anything by him so i can't comment i did google some things and looked on his site as well as msnbc's site...and found nothing.

and no one cancelled any speaking engagements except kerry himself...and that was a political move, like everything else this week.
on Nov 01, 2006
Well, we are going to have to agree to disagree then, because I can't see how the footage could be interpreted as anything put a poorly articulate jab at the President.

C'est la vie, right?
on Nov 01, 2006
C'est la vie, right?


probably not, baker will try to scream his lie over and over until someone believes him, or till next tuesday.
on Nov 01, 2006
next, watch him nitpick a few words from comments here and try to "prove" something with it, lol
on Nov 01, 2006
The only "joke" was horseface Hanoijohn. I get that joke.
on Nov 01, 2006
Hanoijohn.


or maybe they'll just resort to insults
on Nov 01, 2006
probably not, baker will try to scream his lie over and over until someone believes him, or till next tuesday.


It is not a lie. You can call it a disagreement, but that is what it is at best. At worst, he is right and you are wrong. But just because there is a disagreement between people, it does not automatically follow that one is lying.
on Nov 01, 2006
He's lying, and its pretty obvious

no he isn't, and that's pretty obvious.


What you're missing here is it's "not" just us that feel that way about Kerry! A big "bunch" of people on "both" sides of the fence (democrats & republicans) feel exactly the same way as bakerstreet. So you are intitled to your opinion. But "you" can't prove baker is lying. And BTW.....this wouldn't be the first time Kerry has stuck his foot in his own mouth, and more than likely won't be the last time either!
on Nov 01, 2006
guy,,,i didn't call baker a liar 1st, he came here and did that. if ya wanna criticize that, go after the one who started it.

i believe john kerry. based on the evidence of the actual speech and the fact that bush's intellect has been fodder for years. you can be upset with kerry callin the president stupid, but calling kerry a liar is just wrong.
on Nov 01, 2006
Conners....how many times will you vote democrat next week?

The funny thing here, is since when did Kerry become the Champion for the Soldiers? It seems like every other time the man opens his mouth, he insults the soldiers, or insults something that many of them believe in.

You are so liberal, and there isn't an ounce of independant party in you, that if being a liberal democrat was being shiny, you would be blinding.
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